# After resume sometimes Channel#self is null

**URL:** <https://hub.soprani.ca/t/after-resume-sometimes-channel-self-is-null/815>\
**Category:** Issues\
**Tags:** cheogram-www\
**Created:** [August 19, 2026, 3:24pm UTC](https://hub.soprani.ca/t/after-resume-sometimes-channel-self-is-null/815 "2026-08-19T15:24:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![singpolyma](https://hub.soprani.ca/user_avatar/hub.soprani.ca/singpolyma/32/11_2.png) [@singpolyma](https://hub.soprani.ca/u/singpolyma)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2026, 3:24pm UTC](https://hub.soprani.ca/t/after-resume-sometimes-channel-self-is-null/815/1 "2026-08-19T15:24:23Z")

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Causes MUC to be still “syncing” even after resume and it’s not doing anything.

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**Author:** ![singpolyma](https://hub.soprani.ca/user_avatar/hub.soprani.ca/singpolyma/32/11_2.png) [@singpolyma](https://hub.soprani.ca/u/singpolyma)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2026, 6:39pm UTC](https://hub.soprani.ca/t/after-resume-sometimes-channel-self-is-null/815/2 "2026-08-24T18:39:09Z")

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ac643870ec910248b4792f89beadf7d41312eb21 should help with this, and is a good thing to have, but not sure if there’s cases where we are joined but self still wasn’t set for some reason etc?

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**Author:** ![eric](https://hub.soprani.ca/user_avatar/hub.soprani.ca/eric/32/28_2.png) [@eric](https://hub.soprani.ca/u/eric)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 7:08pm UTC](https://hub.soprani.ca/t/after-resume-sometimes-channel-self-is-null/815/3 "2026-10-01T19:08:30Z")

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going to fix this by making there always be self, which is also going to resolve [Sending when not yet joined should work - Issues - Sopranica](https://soprani.ca/todo/699)

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**Author:** ![singpolyma](https://hub.soprani.ca/user_avatar/hub.soprani.ca/singpolyma/32/11_2.png) [@singpolyma](https://hub.soprani.ca/u/singpolyma)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 7:16pm UTC](https://hub.soprani.ca/t/after-resume-sometimes-channel-self-is-null/815/4 "2026-10-01T19:16:36Z")

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That will fix what this says, though we need to make sure the new isJoined is true when it should be. Which would be the new symptom

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**Author:** ![eric](https://hub.soprani.ca/user_avatar/hub.soprani.ca/eric/32/28_2.png) [@eric](https://hub.soprani.ca/u/eric)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 7:12pm UTC](https://hub.soprani.ca/t/after-resume-sometimes-channel-self-is-null/815/5 "2026-10-02T19:12:04Z")

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Noted. Won’t mark this resolved when I fix the other. I haven’t seen this specific thing happen recently, so I will unassign myself for now.

I have a different still syncing issue, but it’s not that self is null.
